, new york city and richmond so you know, those are the numbers we look at as well. this is a great number for manufacturing, but you know, the analysts out there debated whether or not we're already, again, in recession, which we did see a double dip, for example, during the great depression. stuart: the one thing about it, president obama will jump on this number just released and use it in the debate on wednesday night, i will guarantee that. >> yes, i think you're right. stuart: back to nicole, now up 120 points, i want to know which stocks are leading the dow rally? >> it's easy to find a lot of winners, some of the names in best performance in percentage points, bank of america and american express and the drug index, the banking index, the oil services indid ex, you get the picture, all higher. >> yeah, they are, and the dow is now up 130 points and gomes, it you say they're higher? >> this comes off the barron's story over the weekend and says the outlook, that goldman sachs can go up 25% a year, at least 25% in a year and grow their book value because they'v